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meg_tdjSooooooo, this episode had a lot of flaws. Like, a LOT of flaws. It actually surprises me, because this is not a show that gets it wrong.
But you know what else this episode had? Joy buzzers. And to me, that made all the difference. ;)
As I mentioned in my 5x04 post, I do find it interesting that it was probably Jesse who wiped out the angels, and that by getting back together, Sam and Dean were able to stop him from going darkside and pretty much saved the hosts of heaven. You'd think they'd be grateful. :P
What makes absolutely no sense is... pretty much everything else, LOL. First of all, how could a half-human, half-demon have that much power? I could maybe understand if something else was done to him, but they never mentioned anything. Second of all, why didn't they create a whole ARMY of these kids if it's that easy to do? Third of all, why the heck was that demon alone when she gave birth to him if this kid was so dang important? And fourthly, WHY DID SAM AND DEAN LET HIM WALK OFF ALONE TO "SAY GOODBYE" TO HIS UNCONSCIOUS PARENTS?!?! Idjits.
Also, Castiel's comment that "your Bible gets more wrong than it gets right" is totally true in the context of the Supernatural-verse... but it would have been applicable to practically ANY CONVERSATION they have EVER HAD, except THAT one. Nowhere in the Bible does it say or even suggest that the antichrist is the son of Satan. Unless he was talking about that rare version of Revelation they've been toting around, but it didn't seem to have been wrong yet.
But on to the good stuff... what a whacky world it would be if everything kids believed was actually true, right? Hahaha! Although I have to admit, I'd never heard the scratching-your-brains-out, joy-buzzers-electrocute-you, tooth-fairy-steals-all-your-teeth, never-mix-pop-rocks-and-Coke, hair-on-the-palm myths. In fact, this episode finally helped me understand why Ava considered the pop rocks and Coke thing a suicide attempt, LOL. The only one I'd heard before was that pulling a face for too long makes it stick that way. I used to test that one out on a regular basis, of course, heh. I don't know, maybe my parents just didn't lie to me enough... or I was too smart to be fooled, whichever. ;)
The boys gearing up to test the joy buzzer... HILARIOUS. Dean actually kinda suited the gear and the goggles, LOL. And the fact that he kept eating that ham through the rest of the episode... I was sure he'd get worms. THAT was something I believed as a kid. :P
The whoopee cushion... I feel as though it shouldn't have been funny, but it was FUNNY. I heard that the actors fought against doing it because they felt it messed with the flow of the scene or something, but Kripke kept telling them it'll be funny, just do it, so they did. And I have to admit, it was SO DEAN to leave that thing there (on Sam's chair, I noticed), and for Cas to sit on it... oh maaaan, I just laugh so hard. I'm sorry. ;)
Sam picking the lock before knocking... kind of silly, but his reaction when the door opened was hilarious, so whatever. ;)
Shocking Sam with the joy buzzer... I think there are two conflicting points of view on this in fandom, and I pretty much swing back and forth between them - the "OMG SO FUNNY!!!" view, and the "Dude, Dean could have KILLED HIM!!!" view. Both are valid, I suppose. Although I do think that it was more than just a hunch for Dean by that point. He could see that Jesse no longer believed in the electrocution thing, and it was obvious that's what was causing the freaky stuff in the first place. So yeah, I can see the funny. Because it WAS funny, LOL. ;)
But I will never understand how Dean was carrying it IN HIS POCKET without getting shocked himself, but I guess that's neither here nor there. :P
Jesse was adorable, but wasn't he a little old to be drawing pictures of the tooth fairy? I mean, seriously. But yeah... really cute kid, and a good little actor. Jesse reminded me so much of young Sam, and I thought it was sweet that Sam really related to him. "See, we're kind of freaks ourselves" was such a cute bonding moment. He'd finally found someone even more screwed up than he was, thanks to demons. And just like Sam, all Jesse wanted was to do the right thing. :(
Sam's speech to him about making the right choices was so moving. Poor Sam, he really will be haunted for the rest of his life for making the wrong ones. And he was right, giving Jesse all the honest facts and presenting him with clear choices really got through to him what was right and what was wrong. It was okay for Cas saying Sam hadn't made the right choices, but Sam hadn't been given that same consideration. Nobody TOLD him that killing Lilith would be a bad idea. Cas knew it and kept it from him! Sam didn't want Jesse to be treated that same way.
Speaking of Sam and Cas, I love the way Sam looked at the Cas doll and plonked him back on the mantle, heh heh. I swear you can see nasty thoughts going through his mind...
Meanwhile, Dean was so careful with it, LOL. That was such a cute idea. And Dean saying Cas was a buddy of his, awww! :)
Going back to Sam and Cas for a minute... the scene where Sam said they don't kill children, and Cas said that a year ago he would have done whatever it took to win this war. Sam almost did kill a child in order to kill Lilith, so Cas totally had a point. But what I love most about that scene is the way Dean tapped Sam's arm and stepped in between them, becoming the voice of reason. Then when Sam wanted to jump back in, he tapped Dean's arm in the same way and Dean stepped back. Equal footing!! Mutual respect!! Soooooooo good to see.
And I love that Cas hesitated over killing Jesse. Same way Sam hesitated over the little girl in 3x16, really. Cas really didn't WANT to kill him, he was just trying to save the lives of his kin.
The demon mom trying to pull Jesse's trigger by preying on his hate of being lied to... so like Sam always having his "weak little brother" trigger pulled in the same way. I wonder if seeing it happen to someone else helped to open his eyes about that.
I'm surprised they never readdressed Jesse later in the season. I hope they do at some point, because the longer they put it off, the more pointless and ridiculous this episode seems. Has he lost his power now that Lucy's back in jail? Did they really get through to him for good? So many questions.
Quotes -
Doc: Pick your acronym - OCD, PCP, it all spells crazy.
Dean: Yeah, most of my babysitters sucked. Especially Miss Chancy. She only cared about two things - Dynasty, and bedtime.
Dean: You ready?
Sam: Hit it, Mr. Wizard.
Dean: That'll do, Pig.
Storekeeper: Kids come in. They don't buy much, but they're more than happy to break stuff. These days, all they care about are their iPhones and those kissing vampire movies.
Sam: He wrote up a description - 5'10", 350 pounds, wings, and a pink tutu. Said it was the tooth fairy.
Dean: So, he's obviously whacked out on pain killers.
Dean: Well, I'll see your crazy and raise you some. There's a couple kids upstairs with stomach ulcers, say they got it from mixing pop rocks and Coke. Another guy... his face froze that way.
Sam: What way?
Dean:
Dean: I thought sea monkeys were real.
Sam: They are. They're brine shrimp.
Dean: No, no, no, I mean like in the ads. You know, like the sea monkey wife cooks the pot roast for the sea monkey husband, and the sea monkey kids play with the dog in the sea monkey castle... real. I mean, I was 6, but I believed it.
Sam: It has the powers of a god, or... of a trickster.
Dean: Yeah, with the sense of humour of a 9 year old.
Sam: Or you.
Sam: Dude, seriously. Still with the ham.
Dean: We don't have a fridge!
Sam: Oh, dude... that's not what I think it is, is it?
Dean: I got bored. That nurse was hot.
Sam: You know, you can go blind from that, too.
Dean: *nods* Give me five minutes, we'll go check out that house. *walks to bathroom*
Sam: Yeah. Hey, do not use my razor!!
Dean: *smirks*
Dean: Come on, you can trust us. We're the authorities.
Sam: What's that?
Jesse: It's called soup. You heat it up and you eat it.
Sam: Dude... what the hell.
Dean: I had a hunch, I went with it.
Sam: You risked my ass on a hunch?!
Dean: You're fine. Besides, now we know who's turned this town into Willy Wonka's worst nightmare.
Castiel: *after sitting on whoopee cushion* That wasn't me.
Dean: Who put that there?
Dean: You're a superhero.
Jesse: I am?
Dean: Yeah! Yeah, I mean, who else can turn someone into a toy? You're Superman. Minus the cape and the go-go boots.
Julia: *to Sam* Stay right there, dreamboat. Can't hurt you. Orders. *to Dean* You on the other hand? Hurting you's encouraged.
Sam: We hunt monsters.
Julia: Except when you ARE the monster. Right, Sammy?
Dean: How did you do that?
Jesse: *shrugs* I just did.
Dean: Kid... you're AWESOME.
Dean: *picks up Castiel doll* Look, uh, truth is... he's kind of a buddy of mine. Is there any way you could turn him back?
Jesse: He tried to kill me.
Dean: Right, uh... but he's, he's a good guy. You know, he was just confused.
Jesse: *glares*
Dean: Okay. It's been a long night. We'll... talk about it later.
Sam: You're powerful. More powerful than pretty much anything we've ever seen. That makes you...
Jesse: A freak?
Sam: To some people, maybe. But not to us. See, we're kind of freaks ourselves.
But you know what else this episode had? Joy buzzers. And to me, that made all the difference. ;)
As I mentioned in my 5x04 post, I do find it interesting that it was probably Jesse who wiped out the angels, and that by getting back together, Sam and Dean were able to stop him from going darkside and pretty much saved the hosts of heaven. You'd think they'd be grateful. :P
What makes absolutely no sense is... pretty much everything else, LOL. First of all, how could a half-human, half-demon have that much power? I could maybe understand if something else was done to him, but they never mentioned anything. Second of all, why didn't they create a whole ARMY of these kids if it's that easy to do? Third of all, why the heck was that demon alone when she gave birth to him if this kid was so dang important? And fourthly, WHY DID SAM AND DEAN LET HIM WALK OFF ALONE TO "SAY GOODBYE" TO HIS UNCONSCIOUS PARENTS?!?! Idjits.
Also, Castiel's comment that "your Bible gets more wrong than it gets right" is totally true in the context of the Supernatural-verse... but it would have been applicable to practically ANY CONVERSATION they have EVER HAD, except THAT one. Nowhere in the Bible does it say or even suggest that the antichrist is the son of Satan. Unless he was talking about that rare version of Revelation they've been toting around, but it didn't seem to have been wrong yet.
But on to the good stuff... what a whacky world it would be if everything kids believed was actually true, right? Hahaha! Although I have to admit, I'd never heard the scratching-your-brains-out, joy-buzzers-electrocute-you, tooth-fairy-steals-all-your-teeth, never-mix-pop-rocks-and-Coke, hair-on-the-palm myths. In fact, this episode finally helped me understand why Ava considered the pop rocks and Coke thing a suicide attempt, LOL. The only one I'd heard before was that pulling a face for too long makes it stick that way. I used to test that one out on a regular basis, of course, heh. I don't know, maybe my parents just didn't lie to me enough... or I was too smart to be fooled, whichever. ;)
The boys gearing up to test the joy buzzer... HILARIOUS. Dean actually kinda suited the gear and the goggles, LOL. And the fact that he kept eating that ham through the rest of the episode... I was sure he'd get worms. THAT was something I believed as a kid. :P
The whoopee cushion... I feel as though it shouldn't have been funny, but it was FUNNY. I heard that the actors fought against doing it because they felt it messed with the flow of the scene or something, but Kripke kept telling them it'll be funny, just do it, so they did. And I have to admit, it was SO DEAN to leave that thing there (on Sam's chair, I noticed), and for Cas to sit on it... oh maaaan, I just laugh so hard. I'm sorry. ;)
Sam picking the lock before knocking... kind of silly, but his reaction when the door opened was hilarious, so whatever. ;)
Shocking Sam with the joy buzzer... I think there are two conflicting points of view on this in fandom, and I pretty much swing back and forth between them - the "OMG SO FUNNY!!!" view, and the "Dude, Dean could have KILLED HIM!!!" view. Both are valid, I suppose. Although I do think that it was more than just a hunch for Dean by that point. He could see that Jesse no longer believed in the electrocution thing, and it was obvious that's what was causing the freaky stuff in the first place. So yeah, I can see the funny. Because it WAS funny, LOL. ;)
But I will never understand how Dean was carrying it IN HIS POCKET without getting shocked himself, but I guess that's neither here nor there. :P
Jesse was adorable, but wasn't he a little old to be drawing pictures of the tooth fairy? I mean, seriously. But yeah... really cute kid, and a good little actor. Jesse reminded me so much of young Sam, and I thought it was sweet that Sam really related to him. "See, we're kind of freaks ourselves" was such a cute bonding moment. He'd finally found someone even more screwed up than he was, thanks to demons. And just like Sam, all Jesse wanted was to do the right thing. :(
Sam's speech to him about making the right choices was so moving. Poor Sam, he really will be haunted for the rest of his life for making the wrong ones. And he was right, giving Jesse all the honest facts and presenting him with clear choices really got through to him what was right and what was wrong. It was okay for Cas saying Sam hadn't made the right choices, but Sam hadn't been given that same consideration. Nobody TOLD him that killing Lilith would be a bad idea. Cas knew it and kept it from him! Sam didn't want Jesse to be treated that same way.
Speaking of Sam and Cas, I love the way Sam looked at the Cas doll and plonked him back on the mantle, heh heh. I swear you can see nasty thoughts going through his mind...
Meanwhile, Dean was so careful with it, LOL. That was such a cute idea. And Dean saying Cas was a buddy of his, awww! :)
Going back to Sam and Cas for a minute... the scene where Sam said they don't kill children, and Cas said that a year ago he would have done whatever it took to win this war. Sam almost did kill a child in order to kill Lilith, so Cas totally had a point. But what I love most about that scene is the way Dean tapped Sam's arm and stepped in between them, becoming the voice of reason. Then when Sam wanted to jump back in, he tapped Dean's arm in the same way and Dean stepped back. Equal footing!! Mutual respect!! Soooooooo good to see.
And I love that Cas hesitated over killing Jesse. Same way Sam hesitated over the little girl in 3x16, really. Cas really didn't WANT to kill him, he was just trying to save the lives of his kin.
The demon mom trying to pull Jesse's trigger by preying on his hate of being lied to... so like Sam always having his "weak little brother" trigger pulled in the same way. I wonder if seeing it happen to someone else helped to open his eyes about that.
I'm surprised they never readdressed Jesse later in the season. I hope they do at some point, because the longer they put it off, the more pointless and ridiculous this episode seems. Has he lost his power now that Lucy's back in jail? Did they really get through to him for good? So many questions.
Quotes -
Doc: Pick your acronym - OCD, PCP, it all spells crazy.
Dean: Yeah, most of my babysitters sucked. Especially Miss Chancy. She only cared about two things - Dynasty, and bedtime.
Dean: You ready?
Sam: Hit it, Mr. Wizard.
Dean: That'll do, Pig.
Storekeeper: Kids come in. They don't buy much, but they're more than happy to break stuff. These days, all they care about are their iPhones and those kissing vampire movies.
Sam: He wrote up a description - 5'10", 350 pounds, wings, and a pink tutu. Said it was the tooth fairy.
Dean: So, he's obviously whacked out on pain killers.
Dean: Well, I'll see your crazy and raise you some. There's a couple kids upstairs with stomach ulcers, say they got it from mixing pop rocks and Coke. Another guy... his face froze that way.
Sam: What way?
Dean:
Dean: I thought sea monkeys were real.
Sam: They are. They're brine shrimp.
Dean: No, no, no, I mean like in the ads. You know, like the sea monkey wife cooks the pot roast for the sea monkey husband, and the sea monkey kids play with the dog in the sea monkey castle... real. I mean, I was 6, but I believed it.
Sam: It has the powers of a god, or... of a trickster.
Dean: Yeah, with the sense of humour of a 9 year old.
Sam: Or you.
Sam: Dude, seriously. Still with the ham.
Dean: We don't have a fridge!
Sam: Oh, dude... that's not what I think it is, is it?
Dean: I got bored. That nurse was hot.
Sam: You know, you can go blind from that, too.
Dean: *nods* Give me five minutes, we'll go check out that house. *walks to bathroom*
Sam: Yeah. Hey, do not use my razor!!
Dean: *smirks*
Dean: Come on, you can trust us. We're the authorities.
Sam: What's that?
Jesse: It's called soup. You heat it up and you eat it.
Sam: Dude... what the hell.
Dean: I had a hunch, I went with it.
Sam: You risked my ass on a hunch?!
Dean: You're fine. Besides, now we know who's turned this town into Willy Wonka's worst nightmare.
Castiel: *after sitting on whoopee cushion* That wasn't me.
Dean: Who put that there?
Dean: You're a superhero.
Jesse: I am?
Dean: Yeah! Yeah, I mean, who else can turn someone into a toy? You're Superman. Minus the cape and the go-go boots.
Julia: *to Sam* Stay right there, dreamboat. Can't hurt you. Orders. *to Dean* You on the other hand? Hurting you's encouraged.
Sam: We hunt monsters.
Julia: Except when you ARE the monster. Right, Sammy?
Dean: How did you do that?
Jesse: *shrugs* I just did.
Dean: Kid... you're AWESOME.
Dean: *picks up Castiel doll* Look, uh, truth is... he's kind of a buddy of mine. Is there any way you could turn him back?
Jesse: He tried to kill me.
Dean: Right, uh... but he's, he's a good guy. You know, he was just confused.
Jesse: *glares*
Dean: Okay. It's been a long night. We'll... talk about it later.
Sam: You're powerful. More powerful than pretty much anything we've ever seen. That makes you...
Jesse: A freak?
Sam: To some people, maybe. But not to us. See, we're kind of freaks ourselves.
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Date: 2010-08-23 09:40 pm (UTC)(
which makes me wonder about other demons and their sex in human life and gives me the idea that Crowley was a woman before she sold her soul and now prefers being maleIgnore me)Plus I love how Sam looks on this line: Sam: It has the powers of a god, or... of a trickster.
He's like "oh please not him again", but maybe this is when he starts thinking about how the Trickster could be useful if they do run into him. Thus why he's kinda got a prepared speech for Dean in 5x08.
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Date: 2010-08-23 10:48 pm (UTC)He's like "oh please not him again", but maybe this is when he starts thinking about how the Trickster could be useful if they do run into him. Thus why he's kinda got a prepared speech for Dean in 5x08.
LOL He really didn't want to see that guy again. But you're right, that probably got him thinking about it. Awesome. :)